For those that don't know, David Shah was lead singer of Luxembourg (a band I heartily recommend). He now fronts a group called The Melting Ice Caps.
Hello!
Out of all the bands and projects you’ve been involved in, David, I think it’s fair to say that you’re most strongly associated with Luxembourg. The band was championed by big names such as Simon Price, Steve Lamacq and even the elitist NME! The debut album, “Front”, garnered golden reviews from the indie crowd. This must have encouraged you all to carry on and work on the follow-up, which unfortunately was never completed. So why did the band stop all of a sudden? Surely, you were just starting to smell the scent of success? We worked really hard on Luxembourg for seven years, and some of us had a shared music-making history going back even further than that. We enjoyed a lot of very warm support from webzines, small promoters and the like – and it was all much appreciated – but we rarely drew the attention of the mainstream. We were approached by big labels a few times – cue much excitement – but nothing concrete ever came of it. We built up a wonderful, loyal live audience, but I think it's fair to say that our rise had somewhat plateau-ed by 2008 (although of course that might have changed if we had continued). In the end, I think we just wanted to see each other do different things musically, have fun, take philosophy degrees, visit the pyramids... just anything other than the thing we had been slogging away at for really quite a long time.
I've no regrets, because I know we gave it a good go when we were at the stage of life when you should be giving it a good go. That's not to say that I take music-making any less seriously now than I did then, far from it, but the aims are very different these days.
Did you self-release under Dogbox Records because no one came knocking on the door or was it that the band would enjoy much more creative (and financial) freedom in doing so? Couldn’t you have just stuck with Angular Recording Corporation?
We were chuffed to be on the first two Angular compilations CDs, but unfortunately they weren't able to offer Luxembourg anything beyond that. So I think necessity was the mother of invention where Dogbox was concerned, yes. Alex did a great job with turning it into a bona fide label.
Is it an urban myth that Morrissey was in the audience looking on in awe at Luxembourg’s gig at The Metro?
Lots of people claim he was there, so unless it's a very elaborate joke on me, I suppose he was. Sadly, I was too dazzled by the stage lights to catch a glimpse of him. At least, I think it was the glare of the lights – maybe it was just his aura. Or the light bouncing off his glorious brow...
After Luxembourg drew to a close, you moved onto The Melting Ice Caps. Now in terms of sound it does seem very different to what you did previously. Was this a conscious effort?
Well, quite a few of the Ice Caps recordings came about by my collaborating with one person at a time (Alex Potterill, Aug Stone, Audrey Morse, Mark Estall, Samantha Ashleigh Hayhurst, Aurore Sommer), and there were other songs that I made working entirely solo. Either way, a lot of samples and virtual instruments were usually involved. That's bound to sound different to the sound of five people playing together, i.e. Luxembourg. It also meant I could try things that I couldn't have done in Luxembourg, so the Ice Caps catalogue includes a bossa nova song, a few dance tracks, something akin to folk music, and generally some quite unexpected gear changes here and there. Maybe things have come full circle now though: on the “Strike” EP last year, I got to record a song (“Strike In The Dark”) with a full band (the wonderful live Ice Caps group), and there'll be two more such full-band numbers on the album I'm putting out this year. If there's a unifying thread now, it's to make songs that have a certain prettiness.
I think some of the Ice Caps songs are as good as anything I wrote prior. I'm not sure how many people my music reaches these days, but I carry on because I love doing it. I'd like to think the songs will have a long life, but that needn't be through the versions I've recorded.
You’re also working with Aug Stone under the umbrella of The Soft Close Ups. Now do you see this as an equal to The Melting Ice Caps?
It's all equal, of course. There are some real gems in the Close-Ups canon, I think. But time-wise it is very much a side project for both Aug and me. We've written about ten Close-Ups songs together, I think, whereas I've released about 30 Ice Caps songs, and there's a full-length album of new Ice Caps material on its way. (Never hurts to mention that more than once!) Aug, as you probably know, always has a dozen intriguing projects on the go at any one time.
Do you deliberately veer away from being political in your songs nowadays? It was often said that the Luxembourg lyrics were political. I expect my lyrics nowadays are seen as less political, but I wouldn't agree. I'm just a bit less hectoring in how I say things these days.
Can you please describe how you would traditionally write the lyrics to a song? The way I mostly work now, the lyrics are usually the last part of the process. I tend to start a new song by working out the chords and melody. Sometimes I build up the musical arrangement quite a lot before the words suggest themselves. Ideas for lyrics come from all over the place: things that happen to you, things you read, other people's lyrics. At the risk of de-romanticising the whole business, the final step is partly technical – making the lines scan, managing to get in a few rhymes here and there, or some pleasing word combinations. But that mechanical bit can be enjoyable, especially when things drop into place. It's a bit like doing a crossword.
Presumably, you have a day job. From what I gather, the hard reality is that GOOD music tends to get overlooked by the press and doesn’t make much money – especially with illegal downloading and the like. How do you balance your work life with the musical pursuits?
I work part-time, so there are some hours left over in the week for music making. A day job isn't such a bad thing for a musician; it stops you taking yourself too seriously or obsessing too much over every last detail of that mix you're working on in your spare room. Music is important, but most of the time it isn't a matter of life and death. Having all your time available to indulge in your own projects isn't necessarily a recipe for happiness.
What do you make of our X Factor - get famous quick - culture?
There are probably better things to do with your time.
Are you still in contact with your Luxembourg band members?
Yes, and some of them even play in the live The Melting Ice Caps band! I'd like to see all the Luxemboys more often than I do though.
Would you happily fall into the nostalgic familiarity of Luxembourg if a reunion was to take place? Or would you want nothing to do with it?
I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of a reunion when the time is right, although of course it's not just up to me. Nostalgia is an emotion that evaporates very quickly, which in this case would be a good thing.
Do you ever play Luxembourg tracks live? Or do you stay clear?
The Soft Close-Ups did a live version of 'About Time' once, but that's as far as I've gone. Like most musicians, I'm usually more interested in playing new songs, not old ones. Maybe one day though.
Any pre-gig rituals?
Sip still water; store self at room temperature.
What are your plans for the near future, David?
Did I mention that the new album is almost in the can and should be out within a few months?
Thanks Harry for helping to spread the word about The Melting Ice Caps!
"Permissible Permutations" is out now
www.themeltingicecaps.co.uk
Presumably, you have a day job. From what I gather, the hard reality is that GOOD music tends to get overlooked by the press and doesn’t make much money – especially with illegal downloading and the like. How do you balance your work life with the musical pursuits?
I work part-time, so there are some hours left over in the week for music making. A day job isn't such a bad thing for a musician; it stops you taking yourself too seriously or obsessing too much over every last detail of that mix you're working on in your spare room. Music is important, but most of the time it isn't a matter of life and death. Having all your time available to indulge in your own projects isn't necessarily a recipe for happiness.
What do you make of our X Factor - get famous quick - culture?
There are probably better things to do with your time.
Are you still in contact with your Luxembourg band members?
Yes, and some of them even play in the live The Melting Ice Caps band! I'd like to see all the Luxemboys more often than I do though.
Would you happily fall into the nostalgic familiarity of Luxembourg if a reunion was to take place? Or would you want nothing to do with it?
I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of a reunion when the time is right, although of course it's not just up to me. Nostalgia is an emotion that evaporates very quickly, which in this case would be a good thing.
Do you ever play Luxembourg tracks live? Or do you stay clear?
The Soft Close-Ups did a live version of 'About Time' once, but that's as far as I've gone. Like most musicians, I'm usually more interested in playing new songs, not old ones. Maybe one day though.
Any pre-gig rituals?
Sip still water; store self at room temperature.
What are your plans for the near future, David?
Did I mention that the new album is almost in the can and should be out within a few months?
Thanks Harry for helping to spread the word about The Melting Ice Caps!
"Permissible Permutations" is out now
www.themeltingicecaps.co.uk














